January 20, 2025
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Best of Comments from the Haters! –
A glorious edition of Starting Strength Radio to commemorate episode 300, a compilation of the best of Comments from the Haters! -
They Don’t Award Form Points in Olympic Weightlifting by Bill Starr –
Everyone who participates in the sport of Olympic weightlifting knows that the judges do not award form points in the snatch and clean and jerk, yet that’s how the majority of the lifters in this country train for those two lifts… -
Fix Your Eyes on the Ceiling for the Bench Press –
Rip discusses the importance of fixing the eye gaze for balance and coordination when lifting. In the bench press, the ceiling is used as the stationary reference point, enabling a consistent bar path throughout the lift. -
Your Back Is Never off the Clock by Robert Santana –
Watching people move under a bar teaches you all sorts of things. Bad habits, bad ideas, and bad genes all encompass the problem that is “bad form.” This has allowed coaches like me to expand our practice… -
Three Reasons Why You Should Be Doing Paused Squats –
Starting Strength Coach Steve Ross explains how paused squats can help fix common squat errors like getting onto your toes, losing thoracic extension, and knee slide. - Weekend Archives:
Strength Training and the Firefighter by John F Musser –
Brent is a volunteer firefighter in his community. He is an older guy in his mid-forties. He has a full time job, an hour commute both ways, stays active with his family, manages a small farm, hunts, shoots and cuts wood… - Weekend Archives:
Getting Played: Whose Fault is It? by Mark Rippetoe –
There are two groups of people who are responsible for most of the misunderstanding in modern strength and conditioning. They are the people you least expect to be blamed for this serious problem…
In the Trenches
Zack Dannawi draws onlookers as he deadlifts 415 at Starting Strength Atlanta. The rather imposing spectator is Amit Shraibhand, visiting the United States for the first time from Israel. Amit is a longtime online client of Adam Martin, SSC, and a student in the Starting Strength Coach Prep Course. [photo courtesy of Brent Duckett]
Manjushree Srinivas, a member at Starting Strength Columbus since October, executes her deadlift work set. [photo courtesy of Jarret Beck]
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Best of the Week
Bill Starr: Strength in Olympic Weightlifting
Yngvi
Very helpful article for coaching the Olympic lifts.
Gymmoser1
One of Bill Starr’s greatest articles.
It simply amazes me that Rip and I are probably the only two coaches in America who recognize the fact that Getting strong is the most important component in Olympic Weightlifting. I have coached literally thousands of kids under 14 years of age. In every case the stronger the athlete the better their technique becomes. If you want to get good at lifting light weights, lift light weights. The only way to get good at lifting heavy weights is to lift heavy weights often. Clip is 9 year old Traison setting a PR in the snatch. He deadlifts 180 pounds.
Lost and Found
Things must be changing a little over the past 12 years based on the recent Olympic and World Championship results from Olivia Reeves and Hampton Morris. Reeves squatting 218kig at a body weight of 71kg is damn strong.
Gymmoser1
This may be true; however, these performances need to be taken in context. A large amount of the weightlifting powerhouse countries is not allowed to compete in international competitions due to doping sanctions or wars. The constant changing of weight classes has helped the womans team USA immensely. I am not taking anything away from our lifters, medals are medals.
I saw Niam back squat at 62kgs 250kgs X 2. Naim never failed a doping test. USA Morris did 126kg snatch and a 172kg c&j @ 61kgs for a 298kg total. Naim at a bdy. wt. of 60kgs did a 152.5 Snatch and a 190kg c&j for a 342.5kg total at the 1988 Olympics. 44.5 more KGS then Hampton Morris did at the past Olympics.
If you want to compare apples to apples let’s look at the 500lb.c&J. Only 5 Americans have lifted this amount. Yuri Vardanian c&j’d 507 at 82.5kgs. Conservatively there are over 500 men (that number more than likely is over 1000 men) have c&j over 500lbs in the world.
I stand by Bill Starr’s article. Us Americans have a long way to go in the strength dept. If Harrison was squatting 300kgs and deadlifting 350kgs. his lifts would be dramatically increased. The same with Olivia if she was back squatting 250kgs and deadlifting 300kgs her lifts would dramatically improve. 218kg squat for Olivia Reeves is good however the current women’s world record squat is 310kg @ a body weight of 165lbs.
Recently Iran Weightlifters have been allowed to post on Instagram. Their superheavy weight posted a very easy 815lbs deadlift. This is the kind of strength Starr, Rip and i are advocating.
Best of the Forum
Fasting rant and a question
NicholasAstro
I’ve recently fallen victim to reading about the benefits of autophagy and fasting. The fasting community seems to suggest that without giving your GI tract time to rest, you increase your risk of colorectal cancer or other ailments. From what I’ve gathered, eating in the so-called “window” or refraining from any calories for a determined period of time causes the body to eliminate free radicals, ward off illness, and clear the body of damaged cells that cause disease.
These benefits appear to occur in a vacuum. The consequences and drawbacks on a lifters progress are obvious, achieving adequate musculoskeletal recovery seems to be contrary to fasting.
At face value it seems the benefits of fasting are off the table for serious lifters. Curious of other board members thoughts on the topic.
Robert Santana
You have to draw the line somewhere on this stuff. The better question to ask is: Under what conditions does this make any sense?
Maybach
Most of those “benefits” are, to be generous, mostly bullshit.
If fasting did all those things, and they are so god damned fantastic, why doesn’t it help you recover any better? Why is a person who has eliminated their free radicals, cleared their bodies of damaged cells, and I suppose aligned their chakras and whitened their teeth, so much worse recovered than someone who hasn’t? Those all sound real helpful for recovery. Why don’t they help at all?
What the fuck is the job of a human being, exactly, if your bodily systems are arranged in such a way that using them close to the limit of their ability (strength training) requires you to accumulate damaged cells and get colorectal cancer? What the fuck is your body FOR, if not MOVING SHIT AROUND?
Fasting is not “good for you.” Ask any of your ancestors. Most people who report benefits from fasting fall into one of two camps:
1) People (usually guys, let’s be honest) who went from “not giving a shit about what they ate” to some fancy fasting protocol. This dramatically by definition cuts down not only the amount of food they eat, but also the amount of bad food and probably ups their intake of good food. They feel better, lose ten pounds, and start saying stupid shit about growth hormone because they don’t eat during the hours their local pizza place delivers.
2) People with something to sell. These guys do a lot of calisthenics and shit and probably also “train like an athlete” to boot.
It’s all horseshit man. This isn’t like the carnivore or seed oil guys, who might be nutcases but at least have a few little nuggests of truth buried at the bottom. Fasting is bad for you. You are better when you have eaten. The evidence is, oh, the entirety of human existence up to this point. Pick any of it.
NicholasAstro
As a lifter it would be entirely counterintuitive. As a non-lifter? I suppose it would be beneficial, especially if you don’t engage in any physical activity. Which feels like a fairly stark dichotomy- are you trying to gain lean muscle mass or not.
This really boils down to a wanting my cake and eating it to for me. Why wouldn’t someone want to take advantage of this if it’s true, right? I don’t think I ever would, because for me, keeping my gains are most important.